{"id":5787,"date":"2025-12-04T17:06:44","date_gmt":"2025-12-05T01:06:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/abovecloud.xyz\/?p=5787"},"modified":"2025-12-04T17:08:45","modified_gmt":"2025-12-05T01:08:45","slug":"killing-of-survivors-sparks-outrage-but-entire-us-drug-boat-war-is-legally-shaky","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/abovecloud.xyz\/?p=5787","title":{"rendered":"Killing of survivors sparks outrage \u2013 but entire US \u2018drug boat\u2019 war is legally shaky"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Pentagon\u2019s Law of War manual clearly prohibits attack, but justification for whole campaign also faces tough questions<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"909\" height=\"726\" src=\"https:\/\/abovecloud.xyz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/image-4.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5788\" srcset=\"https:\/\/abovecloud.xyz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/image-4.png 909w, https:\/\/abovecloud.xyz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/image-4-300x240.png 300w, https:\/\/abovecloud.xyz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/image-4-768x613.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 909px) 100vw, 909px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><br><br>Graphic depictions of two survivors being killed by a second\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/us-news\/us-military\">US military<\/a>\u00a0strike on an alleged Venezuelan drug ferrying boat have provoked outrage where previously there was none \u2013 or at least relatively little.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A firestorm of controversy has greeted a recent Washington Post report which suggested that a deadly attack on a vessel carrying 11 people in the Caribbean was followed with a second assault after the initial strike failed to kill everybody onboard.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Since September, the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/us-news\/trump-administration\">Trump administration<\/a>&nbsp;has relentlessly targeted vessels in the Caribbean and Pacific suspected of being used by \u201cnarco-terrorists\u201d to export illicit narcotics to the US \u2013 killing at least 81 people in more than 20 strikes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The administration has insisted the strikes are legal under the rules of war, arguing that the US is engaged in armed conflict with traffickers, whom it accuses of being in league with Venezuela\u2019s autocratic president, Nicol\u00e1s Maduro, to flood the US with illicit narcotics.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The rationale has been widely rejected by most legal experts, who have pointed out that the US is not in conflict with an armed group involved in attacking its territory or its assets abroad.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But only after the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/national-security\/2025\/11\/28\/hegseth-kill-them-all-survivors-boat-strike\/\">Washington Post reported<\/a>\u00a0that the first strike on 2 September was followed by a so-called \u201csecond tap\u201d \u2013 allegedly to comply with an order from Pete Hegseth, the defence secretary, to \u201ckill everybody\u201d onboard \u2013 has the issue assumed wider resonance. The follow-up strike reportedly killed two survivors clinging to the side of the vessel.<br><br>Amid speculation that a war crime or even murder may have been committed, the Republican-led armed service committees in the Senate and House of Representatives \u2013 until now, acquiescent to the demands of Donald Trump \u2013 have vowed to investigate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Fuelling the urgency, say legal analysts, are suspicions that the strikes violate long-established laws of warfare, even if the White House\u2019s highly contentious claims that it is at war are accepted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Greater piquancy is added by the allegation that the strike occurred in compliance with an order from Hegseth. Days before the Post\u2019s report, the defence secretary threatened to recall Mark Kelly, a Democratic senator, to active military duty to face court martial for his role in a video, created with fellow Democrats, advising service personnel that they have a right to disobey illegal orders.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cEven if we buy into their framing that the individuals on these vessels are combatants, it would still be unlawful to kill them if they are<strong>&nbsp;<\/strong>hors de combat, which means they\u2019re incapacitated,\u201d said Rebecca Ingber, a professor at Cardozo law school and a former legal adviser to the state department.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIt is manifestly unlawful to kill someone who\u2019s been shipwrecked. This is such a longstanding textbook principle of the law of armed conflict.\u201d<br><br>The prohibition is made explicit in the Pentagon\u2019s own&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/ogc.osd.mil\/Portals\/99\/Law%20of%20War%202023\/DOD-LAW-OF-WAR-MANUAL-JUNE-2015-UPDATED-JULY%202023.pdf?ver=Qbxamfouw4znu1I7DVMcsw%3d%3d\">Law of War manual<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cMembers of the armed forces and other persons \u2026 who are wounded, sick, or shipwrecked, shall be respected and protected in all circumstances,\u201d it says. \u201cSuch persons are among the categories of persons placed hors de combat; making them the object of attack is strictly prohibited.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Significantly \u2013 given the allegation that the second strike was conducted in accordance with Hegseth\u2019s order to kill everyone onboard \u2013 the manual also addresses the question of illegal orders.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThe requirement to refuse to comply with orders to commit law of war violations applies to orders to perform conduct that is clearly illegal or orders that the subordinate knows, in fact, are illegal,\u201d it states, citing as an example orders to \u201cfire upon the shipwrecked\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The statutory compulsion to resist clearly illegal orders are bolstered by the 1950&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/ihl-databases.icrc.org\/en\/ihl-treaties\/nuremberg-principles-1950\/principle-iv?activeTab=\">Nuremberg principles<\/a>&nbsp;\u2013 adopted after the allied tribunals that tried Nazi war criminals after the second world war. The principle lays down that an individual carrying out illegal instructions on behalf of a superior is not absolved of responsibility under international law.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.justsecurity.org\/125948\/illegal-orders-shipwrecked-boat-strike-survivors\/\">US law also rejects the principle of superior orders<\/a>&nbsp;as a defence under a precedent established in the prosecution of the former army lieutenant William Calley, who was convicted for his role in the notorious My Lai massacre during the Vietnam war.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The rules are enshrined under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, the legal system governing the US armed forces.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The administration has offered a mix of caveats. While Trump has distanced himself from the second strike \u2013 telling journalists he would not have wanted it to be carried out \u2013 Hegseth has denied ordering the killing of survivors.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Administration officials have gone further by suggesting that Adm Frank Bradley, the commander in charge of the operation, had not been trying to kill survivors but was instead targeting the disabled vessel and the drugs it presumably carried.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Such an explanation could complicate matters, analysts say, but still rebound on the administration by intensifying scrutiny over the legality of the boat strikes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Geoffrey Corn, director of the Center for Military Law at Texas Tech University and a former senior adviser to the US army on warfare law, said it also raised questions over why the survivors could not be rescued first before sinking the vessel \u2013 as reportedly happened after at least one subsequent strike.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI think the first question for the admiral is: what was your target on the second strike? Was it the boat, or was it the crew members?\u201d said Corn.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIf it\u2019s the crew, you have a real problem, because that\u2019s simply improper. If the boat was your alleged military necessity for the second strike, why did you have to do it while they were clinging to the side? Why couldn\u2019t you have intervened to save them?\u201d he said.<br><br>Corn compared the action of sinking the boat to two naval vessels doing battle, saying the analogy illustrated why the actions against the alleged trafficking vessels did not qualify as an armed conflict, as the administration insists.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIf one of them is struck multiple times, which means, inevitably, there are wounded and sick or wounded enemy sailors on that ship and it continues to fight, you don\u2019t stop fighting back because of the potential harm to the wounded sailors,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThis is the crux of the problem. You\u2019re treating a criminal menace as a wartime menace, and the rule doesn\u2019t fit in that situation. With an enemy warship, there are ways to know that it\u2019s done \u2013 it stops firing, or it strikes its colors. But how does that apply to a drug boat?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A possible answer to that question emerged on Thursday as Bradley prepared to go to Capitol Hill along with Dan Caine, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, to address senators in a behind-closed-doors session.&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/12\/03\/us\/politics\/trump-boat-strikes-survivors.html\">The New York Times reported&nbsp;<\/a>that Bradley ordered the second strike after one of the two survivors was seen radioing suspected cartel members for help.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The paper reported that Hegseth had approved a contingency plan for what to do if the first strike left survivors. If they were shipwrecked and \u201cout of the fight\u201d, US forces would help them. But if they took potentially hostile action such as communicating with fellow smugglers, attempts would be made to kill them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The explanation seemed to raise the possibility of any investigation getting bogged down in complex detail.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Brian Finucane, senior adviser of the International Crisis Group and a former state department legal adviser, said the focus on the second strike risked obscuring the flimsy legal case for the boat strikes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s a risk here of losing sight of the forest for the tree, because the broader campaign is really problematic,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThe strike, and the attack itself, is likely unlawful regardless of the precise details, because there is no armed conflict. Without an armed conflict, you don\u2019t have a law of war apply with either its permission structure to conduct lethal attacks, or its relevant prohibitions and criminal penalties. My concern is if there is [congressional] oversight, it may be myopic and narrowly focused on the details of this specific strike, which would be a mistake.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Corn urged the Senate to direct a series of specific questions at Bradley.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThey need to ask him: What was the order you received? What exactly did Hegseth tell you to do? Did he make that statement about \u2018kill them all\u2019? Did he make it before the first strike or before the second strike? What was the target you were attacking? What was the weapons package you used? Why did it have to be attacked at that moment? Why were you indifferent to the plight of the shipwrecked crew members?\u201d he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIf we saw an enemy do this to a couple of our sailors, I think we would be outraged.\u201d<br><br>Reposted from The Guardian<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pentagon\u2019s Law of War manual clearly prohibits attack,  [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":5788,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[1536,5046,5044],"class_list":["post-5787","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-sino-american","tag-but","tag-outrage","tag-survivors"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v19.0 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Killing of survivors sparks outrage \u2013 but entire US \u2018drug boat\u2019 war is legally shaky - abovecloud<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/abovecloud.xyz\/?p=5787\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"zh_CN\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Killing of survivors sparks outrage \u2013 but entire US \u2018drug boat\u2019 war is legally shaky - 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